Post by Bob Breese on Oct 12, 2012 12:48:33 GMT -5
So sorry you aren't able to get any long-term improvement. When desperate, for diarrhea can try about a teaspoon of cinnamon in a dose of Probios daily, Rennet tablet (one tab first day and then 1/4 -1/2 tab thereafter), Albon tabs (from vet?) daily, leaves such as grape, raspberry. Make sure she has access to plenty of water and salt (preferably loose minerals if she'll consume them). Continue doing whatever works for several days even if improvement noted. Hope things get better for you. I know how frustrating it is when things like this go on and on.
I could but it wouldn't be worth my time or money with her... she is just a commercial doe. and the test far out weights what she is worth for us. Also she comes from a herd that participates in random testing for CAE, Johnes and other diseases with the canadian meat goat association.
Post by Bob Breese on Oct 13, 2012 14:38:12 GMT -5
I'm not a rennet expert, but wife says to probably use about same amount as for a gallon of milk when making cheese. Or a tablespoon of pectin. Please realize these amounts are not for certain. But I doubt if either would hurt her.
This is not a suggestion I give lightly. I personally like to know why a goat has diarrhea. However, and in this case, your doe is not improving . I do not believe at her age it is Coccidiosis.
“½ can Beef Consomme’ (set other half aside for next day) 1 package Fruit Pectin divided in half (set other half aside for next day) ½ tsp. lite salt 1 tps baking soda 1 quart water. Mix well and drench the goat all of it in a day’s time. May take two days of this, which you will have from the first day’s division of ingredients.
I suggest that you deworm her again by injection followed by a 14 and 28 day retreatment again, with Doramectin, Ivermectin, or Moxidectin,
Wishing you and your goat the best.
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We gave up on her a few days ago... We tried everyone's suggestions and some would stop her up but within a few days she was back to splats... we butchered her and looked at her organs and she appeared to be in liver failure.
The reason I put the information is to remind everyone about the dangers and laws concerning feeding rendered cattle back to themselves. It was said that Beef Consomme was fed to the goat. Some beef does not go through any sample checking as some people harvest right from the back pasture. The meat could pose a danger if the cow was not checked and tested when butchered. Also mentioned was feeding the meat to dogs. In the articles it brings up a danger to domestic pets such as dogs and cats and humans. So, just thought the subject was interesting and something to remember and consider for the people considering using that. As a producer of course I put the brakes on immediately as I would NEVER risk my entire herd for one animal to try a cannibalistic shot at wellness. Even if it was canned Beef Consomme from the USA. For your situation after reading through the thread I find it very sad. I would feel bad for you too lose your dogs also. Your goat meat is not past the withdrawal time for the products you said you used. The CD Anti is 30 days. The worm medicine also has a withholding. Although we say that is for humans I have seen hunting dogs die after eating a dead calf not past with holding, It died and the guy took a axe and chopped it up and fed it to the dogs. They got sick and an expensive one had the kidneys fail and it died. I also have tried to rush a with holding time and butchered an animal early and I got so sick I though I was going to croak. I can not describe how awful and what a hard lesson I learned from that one. Karma for slitting it's throat I guess. Tasted good but almost made me barf up all my organs.
The only worm medicine she had in her was safeguard and that is not going to bother the dogs.. as far as the meds it has been a good 2 weeks since the antitoxin and the 30 day is for human consumption. It's a blood product and I am not overly worried about it with my dogs...
I have more faith in feeding our old or cull does to our dogs then feeding them commercial dogs foods these days anyway. I know what I am feeding them and it's not some mix up from China. My dogs have been eating like this for 3 years and they are shiny healthy dogs. We also take old cull cows from neighbors cut em up and cook my dog food with them.. Our dogs are still alive and go to the vet and get healthy vet checks and shots every year!
My vet knows what happens with our culls and she has no problem with it.
As far as this doe went with the beef by product, I do agree with you on it, but I thought I would give anything in the book a chance because her future was simply dog food, she wasn't getting to go back to the herd at her point we were hoping to get her cleaned up enough to put more weight on before butchered.
Well at least we know if it helped. I was surprised what I read about Canada compared to the USA. They tell us in our booklets we get with ear tags that they can remove every animal on our property and will even our house pets if an animal comes back positive. That is the only reason I brought it up. Canada seems more relaxed about the issue.