One of my does had it a week and a half ago. One of the young wethers had it a week ago and his brother has it now. The doe and wethers are in separate pens. She was wormed on 7/4. They have not been wormed. I had given them some carrot tops and thought maybe it was that they ate too many but it has been long enough now that I'm guessing that's not the problem. There are no other changes in their diet. They are only on pasture except for the doe who gets a small amount of grain when I milk her in the morning. Any ideas what it could be and what I should do to prevent it spreading to the other does and kids?
Lush pasture can cause scours especially in kids. If the diarrhea is very foul smelling it is likely Coccidiosis. This can be treated with Sulmet or CoRid. You can confirm Coccidiosis with a fecal test run by you or your vet. You will need a microscope. I would also check the lower eye membrane for color. If it is pale pink or white they could have reinfected from worm larvae on pasture and will need reworming. If all else seems ok it could just be a virus. You can treat scours with Kaopectate and I put electrolytes in the drinking water. The stuff sold in foil packets at Tractor Supply works good and pumps extra vitamins in them as well. www.tractorsupply.com/vitamins-electrolytes-8-oz-durvet-cattle-feed-2209105 Don't forget the Probios paste to get their rumens straight after treatment.
My first thought was also coccidiosis. Worming medication will not treat that. It is also something that gets into your ground and spreads from goat to goat so you would need to treat all of them if this is what it is. How old are the goats? I would recommend the fecal to confirm the diagnosis, but that is what I would check for first if they were mine.
The kids are 4 months old. I can't have the vet out to test right now because it's just too d**n expensive for a farm call. I use Molly's Herbal's wormer on my other does and they have no signs of illness. The doe that had diarrhea has only been with me for 6 weeks and since she'd been wormed right before I took her home I hadn't started her on the herbal wormer yet. The kids I haven't given any to yet either. So I'm guessing I need to treat those three for sure.
It also could be dead grass like the yellow strands from the heat wave or too mature plants. If I did not think it was worms or cooci what I would do is give them Power Punch with one crushed Tum in their dose. Also some goat Pro-Bios even though Power Punch has some. And give the ones over a year old a shot of LA200. The dose I use is 3cc per hundred pounds. I would also give them willow leaves if you have any. Follow that up with some apple slices. Then Grape leaves if you have any leaves from purple grape. I just did the above for a goat that spiked 106.8 and within 36 hours I got her to normal and pellets. She got into grass that had some yellow throughout from the heatwave and was cut under for regrowth.
I gave them sulmet last night and their cd&t vax. I'll give them the sulmet for 5 days according to the dosage info I found and start their herbal wormer. The one with diarrhea yesterday still has it today. The others only had it for one day so I'm worried about him. He doesn't seem lethargic or off his food but I gave him some nutridrench. I've heard mixed things about giving probiotics. There's a school of thought that it doesn't do any good in any goat older than 3-4 weeks. What do you think?
Some wormers are toxic to the florae that inhabit the goat digestive tract. If the meds kill of the beneficial "bugs" it can complicate digestive problems and add to your situation. I agree that giving ProBios to a normal and healthy goat likely has no benefit. If you object to ProBios you can use active culture yogurt. The ProBios certainly will not harm at any rate.
Dayflower, how are your goats? My thought on this particular “school of thought” is do not to attend that school. If the goat is healthy there is no need to give probiotics, I agree. However young or old, anytime we are destroying or decreasing something, with such things as changing grain rations, giving an antibiotic, deworming (chemical or herbal), treating for coccidiosis (usually in young goats, except when there is an explosion amongst all the herd, coccidiosis can and will run through adults), treating acidosis, treating enterotoxemia, changing environment/wicked wet weather/winter (stress), etc., probiotics should be used to replace the good bacteria that are being destroyed. I was taught pro means to "promote" and biotic means “life”. What is more, I hope your goats are doing well.
I agree with JJ. Do not attend that school of thought. Goats do need Pro-Bios to help restart the good bacteria in the rumen. Once it shuts down a goat gets in real serious condition. I forgot to mention that I also injected the goat I mentioned with CD Antitoxin. That gave her immediate protection from the toxins that were getting a toehold on her system and possibly destroying the lining of her guts so she could not absorb nutrients. The CD/T shot is a yearly booster and will not help with an emergency as it takes two weeks to get built up in the body. The shot your goats need is CD ANTITOXIN. What they do not need will be flushed out of the body when they urinate.