Post by denitawallace on Dec 4, 2006 14:35:51 GMT -5
I am so glad to find a good serious goat board. My finest cashmere goat has scours and went off feed three days ago. The scours started the day after goats got into my supplies stall and soaked barley and half a white bucket of flax seeds went missing. That could account for the scours in this goat and one other. The other goat recovered quickly, but this one (my best doe) has stopped eating, gets shivery, and grinds her teeth. I took her to the vet on Saturday and he administered Ivermec plus (in case of liver fluke) and took blood. The blood test showed slightly elevated BUN, low calcium, potassium, and chloride - all consistent with scours. No diagnosis. I have been giving her electrolytes with molases, Nutridrench, baking soda in water, dolomite with vitamin C. She has little dishes of many different supplements she can chose from. I also have raspberry leaves, fir branch, Orchard grass, and alfalfa to chose from. She will not eat any of it except for a taste of Sweetlix goat mineral. She seems a little bit attracted to the minerals. At lunch today I am going to give her injectable Vitamin C and injectable B vitamin complex. Although she is not eating, she still responds to me and is no "down". That gives me hope. Please let me know if there is anything else anyone can think of to try. This goat is worth all measures to save.
First off, Without knowing how much Flax see she may have gotten, and large amounts can be very toxic. I would increase the vit C. Do you have anything for poisioning. (Bentonite, charcoal, ) I would dose with something to this affect first. Then I would try to get something in her that will help coat the stomach and intestines. Slippery elm ,in my opinion, is the best.
Other than what you are doing and what Brandywine has suggested, I would add that Probios® or something to aid rumen flora might be helpful. It's a good sign if she is continuing to take in liquids. The electrolytes are essential.
I had this happen with a group of does that had just kidded. You can take a regular (not the quick liting just plain) charcoal brick and bust it up in a bag........ mix with enough water to get it thru a dose syringe and give them a large dose of that (i gave each doe 1/2 of a brick) REMOVE WATER FROM PEN/PASTURE....... the animal will overload on water if you don't. 12 hours later give 60 cc's of Pepto Bismol (yup the people kind) return water to the pen. You can also give probios at this time. Do not give them any grain for another 48 hours then you have to introduce it ever so slowly. But put out all the hay they want. You can continue the pepto every 12 hours as needed.
Post by denitawallace on Dec 5, 2006 12:33:01 GMT -5
thanks, everyone for the messages. Yesterday I went home at noon to check on Barbara Ann, and she seemed worse, and was starting to wheeze as if she might be getting pneumonia. I took her into the vet hospital at Oregon State University. Besides getting her on fluids, they put juice from a cow's rumen into her rumen. Within 30 minutes she was chewing the cow's cud, and started eating. She is there for three days. I haven't her from them yet today - they told me this would mean good news. I think she will make it. It had been too many days for there to be any flax left in her, in fact she didn't even have enough juice in her rumen for the vets to take a pH measurement.
Hope everything continues to go well with your girl.
To add a little humor to the situation, I used to have an old ewe who would give me her cud when I needed one for a sick animal. Wouldn't it be great if every farm had one just hanging around for emergencies!
Thanks for that quick laugh bob......... i could just picture myself standing out in my now SWAMP (what used to be a beautiful pasture is quickly turning my home into lake front property and my goats and sheep into ducks)... mining cud from my favorite ewe, Bertha....... Now there's a site........ 5 yrs ago I was building custom furniture, now I'm fighting a big wooly mamouth for her chewed up breakfast!!! HAHAHA!!!
Post by sallietyszko on Dec 15, 2011 13:56:06 GMT -5
Hi there, glad you are over that! I've found MacKenzie's book Goat Husbandry to be very helpful. With the problem you had, first you have to prevent the digestive system from turning up it's toes by giving bicarbonate of soda, then you have to stabelize the stomach by giving a Pro-rumen, or indeed cud from an other ruminant. Well done for persevering, goats are brilliant
I know this sounds really gross, but if you cannot get a cud from another animal, you can take fresh fecal pellets and mash them up, mix with water and drench the goat with that. It also helps restore the flora in the rumen. Sounds really gross but I read this in a book once and we have actually used this technique on a doe and saved her.