I have a 2 week old Nigerian Dwarf bottle baby. He has had a loose yellow stool for about 5 days. It looks like mustard and smells fowl. He has a clean rear end so its not runny. I have given him an electrolyte with a thickening agent and he has probios in his milk everyday. I have though about treating for cocci, but he just turned two weeks old. He drinks his bottle and runs and hops and acts like he feels fine. I was wondering about e-coli or something like that. I will be taking a stool sample to the vet I guess. Any ideas?
With bottle babies depending on what you are feeding (goat milk, powdered replacer, or whole milk mixed) this is normal. The yellow in color means they are getting enough milk. As they start eating creep it will firm up. As long as they are "acting" healthy and there are no other symptoms I'd say you are doing a fine job and your kid is just being normal
Post by Brandywine on Aug 18, 2006 10:23:44 GMT -5
I think that you are correct to worry about this. I wasn't to worried till you talk about the foul smell. Yes cocci and E-coli are both possibilities. It cetainly won't hurt to treat for both and Albon will cover Cocci and E-coli. I would certainly have a stool sample checked if you can. Usually with E-coli you also have a yellow-green color. The bad thing about the babies is it can turn serious very quickly. Early detection is a life saver.
Last Edit: Aug 18, 2006 10:28:49 GMT -5 by Brandywine
Thanks for the advice. I've talked with the vet and she is looking up information about the e-coli. (we don't have a large animal vet here, so one of our small animal vets has been learning a lot about goats to help us out) I'm starting treatment for cocci. Will the Di-Methox take care of the e-coli? I usually use the 12.5% drench on my babies. I forgot to metion that the poop has a lot of bubbles in it, almost foamy. He was mouthing grass today. I don't want to put him out with the herd yet because I want to take care of this problem first. If the Di-Methox won't do the job for e-coli, how much Albon do you give? I do have some Albon the vet gave to me, it's for dogs I think, maybe a weaker strength. If you know, please inform me. Thanks for all the help.
Post by Brandywine on Aug 18, 2006 13:42:28 GMT -5
The Di-methox is just a generic form of albon. Also this will help a bit, If you have some cinnamon in the cabinet, you can mix a little of it with some water and give them a little every day orally with a syringe. Not only will cinnamon kill E-coli, it is also awesome for the digestion. Mix about a 1/2 tsp. of cinnamon in about an ounce of water and give about 1cc twice a day, for several days.
I have learned to read a post 2 and sometimes 3 times just from missing some little thing that may make lots of difference. It has happened to us all. Bluegoat, Hope that your baby is doing much better.
Hello, I hope you little one is doing better. For a bottlekid whom just gets the scours from a change in feed you can ad 1 package of Knox Gelatin to their milk, it is natural and helps firm them right back up. We use to use it with our calves now we use it on the kids when needed.
Baby update: I have been giving him the cinnamon and the Di-Methox and his stool is getting firmer. Also the color has changed to real dark green, I think he has started experimenting with grass. I also noticed his cud stating to come up, so his rumen is staring to work. Have been leaving free choice grain for him, but not really instered yet, I'll try some hay tommorw. I did start the probis back up, stopped for a few days. It's good to know about the geltin, I'll keep some on hand in the barn. I have been raising goats for 8 years and I love learning new stuff! I hope this baby contuines to improve, I have a 4-H'er who has fallen in love with "Doctor Evil", and her mother said she could have him. (he's named Doctor Evil because his bleat sounds like Doc. Evils laugh on Austin Powers movie Goldmember.) He's a cutie though. Thanks for all the help.
Glad to hear that he is getting better. E-coli stool is dark green. So, Watch the stool, It shouldn't stay green, and check for bad odors. It should get back to a normal dark color. Hope that "The Doc" continue's to improve! Do you happen to have any C&D Antitoxin on hand? If so give him 2cc's orally. If not, maybe you could get a couple cc's from your vet. But give it orally. This will help with the bacteria in the rumen and gut.
Last Edit: Aug 21, 2006 0:38:44 GMT -5 by Brandywine
Thanks, my girlfriend has some, I'll get 2 cc's from her. Is that all I have to give him? I just do it once, right? I'm ording some from Jeffer's when I put in my order. Is this something I should give to babies that get loose stools? I usually don't have a problem with this. And I give all the babies Di-Methox when they turn 2 weeks old just in case to keep them from getting cocci. Plus I feed med. feed to the does before and after kidding. Thanks again.
I give Antitoxin orally anytime that a baby gets the scours. There is some times it doesn't do anything. BUT, there is lots of times that it saves lives. The thing is it does no harm either way. I can't tell you why it works so well orally for this but it doesn't have the same effect when injected. I can just tell you it works.
Thanks, my friend is bringing some over today. Does this work on older goats also? My friend just went through the whole series of C&D Antitoxin shots on one of her goats that bloated. Would it have worked better orally? Please let me know. Thanks