Post by petersonkid94 on Aug 11, 2011 9:56:05 GMT -5
This morning we went to check on our goats and noticed one was not standing up all the way. She is a couple years old. When she is standing still she squats and her back legs look weak and when she walks her back legs look stiff she doesn't look like shes in pain and I think it might be a deficiency of some kind but I'm not sure please help ASAP!!!
How is she acting otherwise? There is a worm (wanting to say barber pole worms) that affects the spine and will make them paralyzed in the back end. Where do you live? This worm used to be more common in the southern states, but I do know it is becoming a problem further north as well. Where you live might help us to diagnose better what is going on.
Is she staring off into space? Does she eat or drink? When was she last wormed and with what worming medication?
meningeal worm. I have never had to deal with it, but what I have read is that you dose Ivermec orally @ 1cc/22lbs 7 days in a row. then end the treatment with 2 days of safeguard orally @ 1cc/10lbs. Here is some info www.sheepandgoat.com/articles/deerworm.html
Possible but usually shows up this way in newborns/young kids. Older goats with selenium deficiency would have to be very deficient for it to affect their hind limbs...just my opinion and I could be wrong, but depending on where they live, I think meningeal worm would be my first guess.
I hope we get an update soon from the person who posted this so we can find out how the goat is doing and what they have found out.
Post by Rose's Goats on Aug 12, 2011 2:43:47 GMT -5
Meningeal worm will leave a track along the goat's spine where it is moving up towards the brain. You might see some hair missing from the track or the goat scratching at the spot. It hurts and bothers the goat so if you see her messing with her own back then you know it's meningeal worm.
Mineral deficiencies such as selenium or copper can cause lack of muscle tone in the back end. Is this goat recieving any mineral supplements in any form? What do you feed her? Also Thiamine deficiency (B1) can cause goat polio that leads to paralysis and blindness. I would start her on large doses of Fortified B complex orally or at least some human thiamine supplements. B vitamins are water soluble so they can't be overdoses easily and will not hurt your goat if she is not thiamine deficient. Start B vitamin supplementation ASAP.
Have you dewormed lately? With what and how much?
Have you tested for CAE? CAE can cause paralysis in the back end. Also Johnnes can cause something similar. Do you test your herd for these diseases.
Keep her hydrated. Get fluids into her any way you can. If she was bottle fed as a kid you can try offering her a bottle. Some goats will remember to use a bottle even when they are older. You may have to start subQ injections of lactated ringers solution to keep her hydrated if she refuses to drink at all.
Keep her in a clean spot that is away from the other goats. You don't want her laying in her own poop or getting molested by the other goats.
Post by petersonkid94 on Aug 13, 2011 19:52:23 GMT -5
thank you so much for all your responses...We have moved her up closer the the house and she seems to be doing better. I personally think it is a selenium deficiency but I am no expert. We live in southern utah and she has been wormed using positive pellet medicated goat dewormer. Their is no way she could be pregnant, the only other goat we have is a female also. She has suffered from depression in the past so we have decided to keep her close to the house so she can see us every time we come and go. She was grazing the day she looked like she was weak on her legs, she was on a rope grazing in the yard. We think she may have got the rope wrapped around her foot and got spooked and ran and hurt her leg that way. We think this because she is acting completely normal and she is limping now instead of looking like its weak. She is thin and we have gotten new grain for her and she is on her way to a healthy weight. our other goat is perfectly fine so I do not think it is worms (and she has been wormed) we also don't live in the area where the meningeal worm is to much of a possibility. thanks so much for all your help...we are also consulting a vet her coat is nice and she is only a little under weight but does anyone have a way to put weight on a goat quickly?
FYI -- My experience and other breeders I have talked to about the pelleted dewormer all agree that it is for the most part ineffective. I would use Ivermec, or cydectin along with valbazen (for tape worms).
I was going to make the same comment as Benjam1 on the pelleted goat wormer. I have never heard anyone who has used it that has had a positive experience. My thoughts were that it would be very hard to ensure that every goat got the correct dosing.
I would deworm her again now rather than waiting. If possible, it would also be a really good idea to take a fecal sample to your vet and have a fecal check done...that way you know what worms you are dealing with.