Post by wattagoodog on Oct 29, 2010 8:08:51 GMT -5
Would like to hear what type of bedding you all think is best for goats. I have 2 pets and have been using straw. Someone told me about Kenaf but I also saw that pellet fuel for stoves works for horses. Was wondering if that would be OK for the goats. What about pine shavings? Will they eat it?
Post by Rose's Goats on Oct 29, 2010 8:45:31 GMT -5
I usually use straw or poor quality hay. I have used wood chipper chips before and didn't like them as much because they got dirty and weren't as absorbant than hay. I put hay on my dirt barn floors in the goat pens after I clean them. Every day I rake up the hay from under the hay mangers that the goats wasted and I spread it around their pens to provide a new layer of hay for them to lay on. I let the hay build up in the pens for two months and then clean them down to the dirt. In the winter I let them build up more to provide better insulation.
I don't think the goats would eat pine shavings but they might snack on the pellets which would probably be bad for them.
Post by Rose's Goats on Oct 29, 2010 14:09:23 GMT -5
Oh, speaking of composting -- I take my dirty goat bedding (ie: hay) and put it on my garden as a mulch. First I till the garden, then I put about 8" of good manure-filled goat hay on top of the entire garden. Then I dig through that to plant my seeds and seedlings. It works amazing to keep in the moisture and stifle most weeds. It slowly releases fertilizer into the dirt because it is infused with goat manure. The only problem is that I grow a lot of sunflowers and oats in my garden by the fall because of feeding the goats BOSS and oats. But most of those can be pulled out by hand when they get up to size. I live where the dirt is mostly sand and my garden has been completely out of control after a few years of using goat bedding as mulch. I grow zucchinis that weigh 20 lbs and tomatoes out my ears!!
I would guess it would depend on where you are also. I live in a wetland. We can't get away with straw anywhere, even inside on dirt floors it creates mud. Wet animals tracking in water and super high humidity, half my property is under water when the rains start. We are always so glad to see our couple of weeks of snow to dry things out. After several years of the moisture literally sucking the weight and health off of animals, we finally hit on a way that works for us. The outside houses have kiln dried fir chips put down (not sawdust which is wet) about 3" deep in small areas at a time so that we can put down pallets over them creating a chip filled pallet floor. Then I put about 6" of chips on top and let them run on it for a couple of weeks to pack it into the pallets. I stomp in where they aren't walking and cover anywhere I see boards showing. When they have a stable floor on the pallets I can start building winter bedding. Usually a mixture of chips and bedding pellets. Bedding pellets are made by pellet stove companies but have no chemicals added. This kind of bedding needs to be stirred to keep it dry and keep ammonia from building up because we don't want to build moist heat or encourage parasite growth. Each house is open at the eaves and front to allow moisture to be drawn out and has a solar operated light to help with drying. Put down fresh, they do eat some of the chips. After all part of their natural diet is trees and woody brush. I just make sure that there is nothing that will harm them in the mix. Goats that are healthy and DRY can take amazing amounts of cold. We had goats in interior Alaska where it got -50 for several weeks every winter. When the land starts drying out, we take all the bedding out and add it to the homemade composters along with what was removed during the winter. These are kept covered to keep excess moisture out until this rain tapers off. Then the pressure lids and jacks are set up. In about 30 days we can start pulling rich back soil out of the bottom slots, this is mixed with sand and potash and spread. In some places we now have 3' of top soil over the clay and rotted vegetation.
Last Edit: Oct 29, 2010 23:50:05 GMT -5 by sunnypaws
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I am new to this website & with caring for goats. I have a couple of questions that I can't seem to find the answers to. 1- we built these silly goats a nice shelter with bedding & all.. they won't go in there, instead they stay by the doors to the house, trying to get inside. 2- what will happen if the momma goat gets pregnant by her son? Any info. will help me out. Thanks & have a blessed day.
Post by Rose's Goats on Nov 23, 2010 15:22:17 GMT -5
Welcome to GW! Goats are fun! To answer your questions:
1. Goats are funny. They definitely want to hang out with the people that bring the food more than be wet and dry. You probably won't be able to convince them to stay in their shelters without some major fencing involved to keep them away from the house.
2. I have bred mother to son before without problems. This is fine to do as long as the son has good qualities that you want to pass on genetically. It's not good to breed mother to son if the mother or the son do not have good genetics. You can concentrate bad genes by inbreeding.
thank you all for the info. I just hope that I'm doing right by these silly goats. I have tried to read up on how to care for them, but can't seem to find a good web-site. Again thanks and Happy Turkey Day to All...
O'Lordy... Well my question about the momma and son goat making babies is coming true. Last night when we came home they were acting really weird, the momma goat was fanning her tail really fast and then her son did his thing. I don't understand at all what they are doing, except the obvious. He keeps smelling her butt and making a weird noise with his tounge hanging out. Is this normal?? Also if she gets pregnant does her every 3 week cycle go away? Is this the right place to be asking questions like these, if not could someone tell me where I should post at? Thanks and have a blessed night..
If you are not prepared to deal with kidding/delivery, I'd say mark the calendar and start reading up on all of the things needed to prepare yourself. There is a VERY good chance that she is bred based on what you have just described. If she is pregnant, her cycles will stop and kidding will occur in 145 to 155 days.
yes very likely you could have some kids on the way.. so definately get yourself set. are you able to pull the buckling out.. this will continue to be a problem anytime a doe is in heat no matter if it is with his mom, sister, grandma, or some random doe! fyi.. i have a mini nubian accident.. son got back in with mom.. voila now I have the outcome.. a lovely 2nd generation mini nubian. nice conformation, however.. just a couple crayons short in the box!