I would like to mix some apple cider vinegar in my goats feed every day to help keep urinary stones down. I have found recommended amounts for adding it to their water, but since mine have access to many water sources that is not a good choice for me. Does any one have a guess as to how much I would want to put in their food?
I have 5 wethers. Right now they are all getting extra grain,alfalfa pellets,calf manna,and beet pulp because I have had worming issues and they have lost some weight as well as eye color. I am still doing worming rotation but wanted to get the weight started back before we got into winter. Part of the reason there are to many water sources is because I just open gates during the day to let them graze on my 12 acres that way they can eat the lower leaves on the trees and the brush instead of Bermuda on the ground. I have automatic waters all over the place so I don't have to fill buckets and they have access to 2 tanks. I am adding the ammonium chloride but just started yesterday. I also started adding the apple cider vinegar to their feed earlier and they love it! Thanks for the help. Any ideas are welcome.
I have been doing the red cell and I am seeing improvement in their eyes. The minerals I am currently feeding is made by Purina for goats. The copper is right but the salt is a lot higher,between 40 and 45%. Can you explain why it matters? I would think it would encourage them to drink more water and keep them flushed out better? Thanks for taking the time to educate me and save my goats!!
Post by rebelshope on Sept 7, 2008 20:30:22 GMT -5
If they are eating that just top dress it. I had been drenching but I found another site that said goats should have 15 ml. That was a lot. I am going to drop in down the 5 and see if she will eat it, if not, I'll drench.
My vet said about 1/4 the recommended amount on the bottle, which matches up with what Donnie said. They eat it on their grain with no problem. They each have their own little eating stanchion so I am sure of the amount they each get.
I nearly lost a Nigerian wether due to Urinary Calculi several years ago. After this I researched Urinary Calculi, and have been adding apple cider vinegar to their water, and I also ad Ammonium Chloride to their feed also. So far it had worked, I have not had another come down with Urinary Calculi since then.
Post by Rose's Goats on May 12, 2009 10:11:51 GMT -5
To go back to the salt question: I think salt content makes a difference because it is a limiting factor in how much mineral the goats will ingest. They will eat less of the mineral if there is lots of salt in it. Once they get enough salt, they will stop eating it even if they need more of the other minerals in the mix.
Also I think kidney stones are related to salt in a diet. I have a friend who gets them all the time and he has to cut back on salt completely. The chloride from the salt gets attached to the calcium in his body and makes stones (or something like that - I can't remember exactly what he had said about it).
Post by angelsprite on May 23, 2009 23:33:32 GMT -5
Rose, I pulled up a site for you that has some good information on it with regard to urinary calculi. It's important to understand the cause and composition of urinary calculi, in order to take steps to prevent them. Urinary calculi are aggregates of minerals in the urine that become hardened and block the ureters. In order to reduce the risk of these mineral blockages, you want to be sure the intake of certain minerals isn't too high. Also, you want them to drink lots of water. Getting plenty of water will reduce the chances of these aggregates forming because there is literally more fluid for them to disperse in. That way, any excess can be eliminated through urination without aggregates causing blockages. Salt is VERY important in preventing your male goats from experiencing blockages. They need plenty of salt to help them maintain adequate fluid intake and to retain enough fluids for metabolic processes. I hope this helps.