never had this before--------got some wonderful hay for my goats, about as gorgeous as you could hope for, got 2 bales with the option of 50 more if they liked it---------
everytime I pick some up I get ate up by some kind of bug, can't see 'em---------I've looked---------puts small whelps that itch like crazy.........not just me either, my father in law got some too and same thing......ain't ants or a grass reaction........have never seen anything like it
gave some to the girls when I first picked it up and they attacked it like they had never had anything so good in their lives.....would love to feed it but I don't want to have the same thing happen to them..........
What do ya'll think about it? It is beautiful and would love to get all of it, but I can't take getting ate up like this.........will it go away? Or is it better to just go ahead and burn it?
Here is what I would do, I would spread out a nice large white sheet on the ground and shake a flake or two of the hay on to it so you can see what the No Seeums are and then you can see what problems they may cause. Only bug that I mainly know of that you don't want in your hay are blister beetles, but you would see these for sure.
nope, not chiggers, there is nothing embedded in the skin just small whelps that itch like mad..........shook it out and couldn't see anything, just talking about it is making me itch I can't deal with 50 bales of this no matter how gorgeous....
I've encountered the same problem, my arms and legs are eat up (thought it was chiggers) but I also see extremely teeny tiny bugs in the hay manger crawling/flying around in the lid when I open it. Notice the girls are also stomping feet like they are affected. Have tried several remedies for bugs (like D.E., herbal Fly Shoo, Sevin dust). Nothing has helped me. Every time I go to the barn, I come back with 200 more bites. I know it drives me crazy so it must be hard on the girls also. Our newest addition is 3 days old and is already scratching. Would love some advise on this. We are down to only a handful of hay bales, so we just need to treat the existing living areas now.
Post by scootermac on Aug 30, 2010 16:15:09 GMT -5
My wife just bought 100 bales of Bermuda hay. After unloading and stacking, she found bites on her legs that itched like chigger bites. When we examined the hay we found tiny bugs that have the shape and look of a beetle when viewed through a strong magnifying glass. They're about the size of a flea, have wings and can fly. We have not fully concluded that these are the source of the bites, but suspect it may be. That, or else there are also some kind of mites perhaps in the hay also. We have taken some of the bugs to the local co-op and they couldn't identify the critters, but are sending samples to Auburn for a determination. (We're in N. Alabama).
Did anyone ever determine what the bugs were in the posts above?
Post by garysfarmer on Aug 30, 2010 20:18:27 GMT -5
I can't say what they are. However, I use skin so soft (avon)on me when in the woods to keep all insects off of me, especially redbugs (chiggers).S.O.S. smells good and you don't have to worry about smelling like a chemical factory. Be careful, as yall may know - sweating will wash it off of you.
When ever you find out what it is please let us know.
Scootermach - Welcome to goatwisdom. Your questions & comments are very welcomed here.
Ok, we found the source of our hay infestation. It's called "foreign grain beetle" (also called "new house bug"). they do not bite and don't cause itching. In fact, they don't really cause any damage. However, they can serve as host to the "straw itch mite" which does cause itching much like chiggers.
In searching for the cause of your hay problem I found numerous posts on various message boards where people seemed to have similar problems, but few offered plausible answers. I hope this may help others. Here's a link to more information.
Hey Scootermac, I got your PM but had to go back and refresh my memory about what I had said (this is Sandra, garyh141's wife). That was May of 2008 when I originally posted. I had another incident this summer that was more like poison ivy except there was no blisters, more like a rash or severe burn. So I had to figure out which time you were referring to. The bugs that I saw back in 2008 were like little baby grey bugs (like a gnat). These were all over in the chicken houses, in the hay manger when I lifted the lid. Couldn't spray anything on them as it would get on the hay source. They just eventually went away but we get them every spring. I thought they must just be baby gnats or baby flies or something -- possibly NO SEE 'EMs, although I saw them! HA! This year has been more of a weed rash HOWEVER, every time I would go outside, it was like I would immediately start itching again EVEN before I would touch anything. Just going outside would trigger my arms itching. I had this for about 2-3 months (all summer) on and off, mostly ON. First I would feel stinging, then itching, then burning, all probably within a minutes time. Of course, I would scratch causing the burning sensation to increase. Nothing helped except at daytime I would take Zantac and Zyrtec (as recommended by my doctor for 2 different types of histamine blockers) and at nighttime I would take Benadryl which helped me to sleep. Then I would put either gloves on my hands or socks on my arms to prevent scratching (laugh all you want, but it works). I'm not recommending anyone follow this advise but that's what my doctor advised for 2 years ago when he said I had poison ivy (and I disagreed with him -- same stuff I had this year). Poison ivy doesn't last 3 months without spreading (at least on me) and it stayed only on my arms. I looked at the pics on your post and that is not what I had in my case. Like I said, mine were tinier than the 3/32 (barely seeable but wit so many, you could see them well) and they were grey. Different shaped. Never found the answers. Sandra