Well that really depends. Are these trees for the goats to eat? I have not found a tree yet that my goats will not eat and kill. If you are trying to repopulate your land with trees, you will need to go to some pretty savy ways to protect them from the goats if your goats are allowed around them.
I built a compound for my goats. Inside was about 40 6-8 inch fir trees. I noticed a week ago one of them ringed. Noticed another two days ago. So, if you want the trees to fair well, then I would put something around the trunks to keep them from them. They make a polyethylene trunk protector that you can tape on with electrical tape, which stretches. If you want to get tacky, you can put a wood surrounding about the base of the trees. Any tree they would not bother is probably not good for them. The answer to your original question is a dead tree.
Post by Rose's Goats on Jan 30, 2008 13:34:42 GMT -5
My goats love the trees in their pasture ... they love to eat them! My husband is a forester and can't stand the goats eating his trees. He has planted saplings of different species all over the yard and the goats have radar for those trees when they get loose. My best recommendation is to fence around the trees if you put them in the pasture. Make sure any fence or structure you put around the trees is sturdy. My goats love to jump on my home-made "sapling savers" and squash them to eat the trees underneath. For any of the bigger trees I hard to completely cover them with small holed hardware mesh. Anything with bigger holes, like chicken wire, the goats could get their teeth through and eat the bark. I even had to cover the roots because the goats would dig through the dirt to eat the bark off of them.
As for tree species, poplars or willows grow really fast if you have moist soil. If you have a water problem, the willows will even suck up the water and make the area around them dryer. I wouldn't recommend conifers because those are a goat's favorite!
Post by bugsy123in on Jan 30, 2008 16:20:52 GMT -5
I'm with braceman...... dead tree would be the answer to this :-) I don't know of a tree out there that can out grow a goats case of the munchies. We have wild cherrie trees here that are well over 12 yrs old and my goats managed to kill them the first summer they were in the paster. The are now working on the pine trees, and remaining cherry trees in their pasture. The only one I have yet to see them gnaw on is our 50yr old oak tree...... figures the one that SHOULD be killed because it's working on falling down they won't touch.
Ok . . . I have a question. I've always heard that cherry trees are poisonous to goats. I've also heard that it's only the wilted leaves that are poisonous. But, surely, bugsy, if you have cherry trees, some of the leaves have to be wilted. Is everything I've heard false?
I can't say what you've heard is false, but I can say my goats have been in the same pasture going on 2 years now with the same trees (well except for the one they killed and the 4 they are working on) AND they were in a paster with a much OLDER wild cherry tree that they never bothered the bark on but did strip all the leaves within reach. At this time I have not had a goat become ill or die because of these trees.
Post by Rose's Goats on Jan 31, 2008 13:11:26 GMT -5
Wilted cherry leaves in large doses can kill anything - horses, goats, dogs, people. Don't feed your goats cherry unless it is completely fresh or completely dry. Knowing this, I did have a cherry tree in my pasture with both horses and goats. It didn't cause any problems but neither animals got to eat big amounts of it.
To weigh in on trees.. yes I would agree dead trees or mature pine trees that are totally stripped bare from ground to about 4.5 feet high (level my miniatures ate too) of course one would need it to be stripped higher for larger goats.. also my 2 cents worth on cherries.. I did extensive research and consultation with vet/instructor from Ohio State University Vet College regarding toxic trees- cherries especially when undergone an unnatural wilt i.e. cut down or storm blown branches- was also told that there is a definitive timeframe for most toxicity to occur but can't recall specific number of hours but basically if after a storm or if after trimming all remnants should be cleared.. green and dead/dry cherry are safe as are the ones coming down in the fall. I was also reasearching this being similar to red maple trees (of course abundance of them in addition to my cherries) and from the kind and knowlegeable sources at OSU was told that red maple typically only affects horses (and maybe a case of alpaca) and again it was during an unnatural wilt period.. green and dried ok.. have also heard that oak leaves are bad (acorns too) and have met people who only fed goats dried oak leaves and others whose goats loved acorns.. all with no ill effects.. again all depends on nutrition and overall condition of goats.. I can recall my tiny baby pygmy's snapping off taking bites (few at a time) of all the darn yew shrubs at my old house.. they are very toxic again to all animals and my buggers never showed any ill effects.. now one bite of my azalea had a pygmy very sick but recovered..