What's the best way to build kidding stalls, and how often do they actually get used? Currently we have a 10 X 10 stall cut down the middle by straw bales. There is a way for them to get around the straw bales into the other side of the stall, mostly because we don't know how to go about making more than one kidding stall with the barn we have. We're about to kick our horse out, he's pulled the barn door off numerous times and chased the goats out, and we could use parts of the barn as well. Mostly I just need to know the odds that the stalls will be used and the best way to make a safe stall for mom and baby.
I use t posts and goat panels bought at tractor supply, that is if you have a dirt or gravel floor in the barn , when kidding season is over I take them down, or you can use cattle panels but you have to put goat fence on them with wire ties to keep the kids in .gates are the same way, but it works and most people have extra panels and gates around.another cool thing to make is a kid house to have in the pen it keeps mom from stepping on them and helps keep them warm , take a large cattle mineral tub cut a door in it and mount it to a piece of plywood P.S cattle farmers most often have old mineral tubs they will give away for free when they are done with them. I would post pics but don't know how.
Our kidding stalls are 5X6 gives plenty of room for mom and babies for a couple of days of togetherness (we even use these for our large hamp ewes) What i would do is build a temp wal the length of the stall 3' back from the door with 2 gates or wire panels for access in and out then divide that in half with another temp wall. That will give you 2 5x7 stalls in each one without changing the structure of the barn...... if you decide to get out of goats and back into horses just pull the temp walls out.
Our jugs (kidding stalls) are made out of "slab" wood from the local saw mill we leave no more than 3" inbetween each board so no one can get a head stuck. They are built 3' high on the outside, and 4' between pens (to keep does/ewes from stealing from hay feeders and fighting). I use the pans that you hand on the fence for feeding and each has an angled hay feeder in it built out of old hog panels. My girls stay in one of these for 2-5 days depending on how many kids, how well everyone is doing and the number of times they have kidded. We have an old donkey that stays with our sheep and i can completely understand the torn off doors...... horses can be a bit bullish.
Ok, what we decided to do was put straw bales up (sounds really cheap I know) in the middle of the stall. They are three bales high and two wide. This way they can get in and out easily, but can go for some privacy when they want to. We are only able to keep the adult goats enclosed in our pen, but I'm sure the kids won't go far from Momma.
Post by bugsy123in on Jan 13, 2008 10:48:20 GMT -5
I personally would advise building some actually pens so they can have a few days of bonding time before being thrown into a herd, also if you have a new time mom she may not always call for her young ones and they will get lost in the crowd and starve (had this happen to a lamb) One way to do this cheap is A) if you have a local saw mill go check out their slab wood pile. We built 1/2 our barn with slab wood (its what the cut to square the logs so they can make them into boards usually have bark on them) makes the barn kinda rustic looking too. B) Go to lowes and ask a manager if they have bundle options. Lots of times they will take their bent/warped or broken 2x4's and bundle them up and sell them for an amazingly low price. Buy and bundle and pick and chose thru the pile to make some pens. Using the slab wood we have about $3.00 in each of our pens and that's for screws(don't use nails as the does stand on the boards and push the nails out ..... learned the hard way on this one).
The stall is about 8'x8' all the way around. What if we used hog panel (what we use for our normal fencing) and put it up the length of the stall to make one long pen. Then used another panel to cut that pen in half and make two four by four stalls?
The hog panel is narrow at the bottom and wider at the top. We use it for most of our fences and it seems to work fine. The kids will not be able to get through it and it will allow us to keep momma and babies in together in a spacious area for a few days. It will also allow any curious visiters to come see the new mommies but remain outside the stall where they cannot touch the kids except to sniff. We can also close the stall off so that no goats can get in while kidding is in progress.
Just make sure it is sturdy. We use 4by4 panel. Sorry don't know if it is goat or hog. We put a fake grass rug between the stalls. We had some left over gates from making a trailer to haul them. My husband nailed a board to make them stronger. Ha!! We are now using regular gates upside down to close off the stalls.
Hi L.A, That sounds good. I use the hog panels also in my kidding pens, sometimes you may need to add some smaller wire to them to come up about 2 feet or so, you will be amazed at how well those small kids can fit through some holes. I have about 3 panels all set strictly for kidding, they are lined with smaller 2x4 wire to prevent any escapees. If you have does trying to stick their heads through lining it 3 feet up normally solves the problem. Plumbers tape attaches them nicely to a wall, make sure to use screws though, sometimes those dang nails just come out with pressure.
Post by tomahawkboers on Jan 28, 2008 22:04:46 GMT -5
I took one of those 599.00 carports and built my barn with 4 kidding stalls that are 4' x 5', I divided the stalls with osb board and built my gates with 2 x 4's and 5/4 decking boards. Cant wait to use them for kidding.They will be here in a couple of weeks. I have them fixed so I can hang my waterers and feeders.I have an 8' runway down the middle so I can get the tractor in and am planning a milking stall and a feed room on the other side and maybe 2 more stalls if need be. Also have lights that I rigged up and outlets to plug in the heatlamps if need be. Its been a long process, but at least I have an area to work goats in a central location.
Post by Brandywine on Jan 28, 2008 22:23:59 GMT -5
Don't laugh, OK. My favorite "kidding stall" is an old two horse trailer. We took out one feed box and fixed that area with a kid box and left the other for a shelf. I have it set up for heat lamps, fans, lights. It actually has a walk-in door into the front (used to be feed tack room) and I have a small pen out the back doors. It can be moved if need be and closed off almost completely when the weather is bad. Very easy to clean and sanitize. Works like a charm.
Brandywine, That is a great idea. Sure would make cleaning a breeze. My kidding barn that we use is made entirely out of scrap 2x4s so all the walls are 4 inches thick, which makes keeping it warmer a snap. Depending on what does are kidding at the same time determines if I have to divide the barn into stalls. I have a couple set of does that kid together and help each other out with the kiddos so no need for seperating, now only if all were this friendly to each other. When I do have to make stalls, I use cattle panels that are lined with either 2x4 wire or chicken wire to keep the kids in with mom and the other moms from trying to steal grain.
Post by bugsy123in on Jan 29, 2008 17:11:27 GMT -5
Well since Brandy has fessed up now I will too. We have a 56' box trailer (you know a semi trailer) We're putting in 8 kidding stalls and a mixing pen then building a fence outside to turn the moms out on nice days (hopefully it will be done before the most of the goats start kidding next month. Right now I'm trying to shove a dozen hamps and 4 goats into one barn. It's amazing what you can do with something......... especially when it's FREE!!!!